Official UK PlayStation 1 / 2 Magazine issues from Archive deleted

[mikewwm8]

Hello everyone,

a couple of days ago, a big amount of the Official PS1 & PS2 Magazine Issues have been deleted from Archive.org. Is there a way to recover them? If I recall correctly, all of the PS2 Magazines were uploaded, and the PS1 Magazine was only missing issue 95.

[Areala]

Looks like we only have a few of the issues preserved here at the moment. I'm not sure if anyone else grabbed them off Archive and has them in their collections, but once something's taken off Archive, there's no way to recover it from that site. Maybe one of our members saved them though, so we'll see if anyone pipes up who can help.

*huggles*
Areala

[OdinValhalla]

Second this. I can't believe I didn't grab them, I'm doing so now on for the sake of future preservation. Have the current available ones on dropbox, so they can't get lost. Will do so with the rest when I hopefully get my hands on them.

If anyone did download the full collection from Archive.org, I would highly encourage them to share it. 

 

[rockyboy]

I would greatly appreciate these if anyone can get hold of them again.

[OdinValhalla]

On 8/6/2021 at 1:02 PM, rockyboy said:

I would greatly appreciate these if anyone can get hold of them again.

You can find most of the magazines over at http://oldgamemags.net  (gotta donate + sign up)

[JonnyCGood]

We need an archive of the archive since Publishers have sniffed out that a bunch of their magazines are on there. A lot of the Japanese magazines and publishers are still around, so I can see them striking down thousands of uploads if they feel like it. The era of just putting everything on archive for free might be coming to an end.

[MigJmz]

I'm trying to save as much UK/JPN mags as I can on the archive. Any help on this will be appreciated as I can't do this task alone.

[JonnyCGood]

I noticed that Saturn Power, a mag I wanted to read, are gone too.

https://archive.org/details/saturnpowermagazine?tab=collection

[OdinValhalla]

10 hours ago, JonnyCGood said:

I noticed that Saturn Power, a mag I wanted to read, are gone too.

https://archive.org/details/saturnpowermagazine?tab=collection

There's a few of them here: 
https://retrocdn.net/index.php?title=Special:Search&profile=images&search=Saturn Power Scans&fulltext=1

[unbanned]

I'm looking for these also. This is the internet. It should not be hard with the bandwidth we have to find these. If I ever get them, I'll make sure to host them on my own website permanently.

[unbanned]

On 8/22/2021 at 3:55 PM, OdinValhalla said:

You can find most of the magazines over at http://oldgamemags.net  (gotta donate + sign up)

I have an idea. Maybe someone who already has an account there can nab them for us? Why would each of us need to get an account? Are the files DRM'd or something? Some CDKEY implementation of magazine scans now?

 

They should be available. None of these should be behind a paywall, ever. Unacceptable.

[kitsunebi]

5 hours ago, unbanned said:

I have an idea. Maybe someone who already has an account there can nab them for us? Why would each of us need to get an account? Are the files DRM'd or something? Some CDKEY implementation of magazine scans now?

 

They should be available. None of these should be behind a paywall, ever. Unacceptable.

NO.

Absolutey NO.

This comment speaks of total ignorance of what it takes to create scans and run a site that hosts them.  That site preserves more mags than any other site out there, and they have ONE rule: don't share the scans (unless the scanner themselves chooses to share their own scans elsewhere as well, like I do).  This rule is to keep disrespectful people like yourself from ruining it for everyone, because once scans from that site show up elsewhere, I promise you, it will shut down forever.  The owner NEEDS the small one-time member fee simply to afford to keep the site running.  You seem to think running a site hosting 8500 mags is cheap/free, but it isn't.  If the mags and service that site provides isn't worth the tiny membership fee to you, then you have no right to complain about not having access to those mags.

They ARE available.  There is no profit being made.  The fee is simply necessary to keep the mags online in a controlled, respectful environment.  Speaking as a scanner who chooses to share his mags both there and elsewhere, I can tell you that there is no other site out there with a higher peigree of members who are respectful to scanners than OGM and I'm frankly grateful there is at least one refuge from the mentality of "so long as it exists it's my god-given right to download whatever I want whenever wherever and however I want to"

P.S. I hope @Phillyman is paying attention.  I know a little something about what happens to people calling for flagrant disrespecting of the rules at other sites (even if in jest), and let's just say that if you keep it up, your user name might not be so appropriate...

Edited Wednesday at 10:14 PM by kitsunebi

[unbanned]

6 hours ago, kitsunebi said:

NO.

Absolutey NO.

This comment speaks of total ignorance of what it takes to create scans and run a site that hosts them.  That site preserves more mags than any other site out there, and they have ONE rule: don't share the scans (unless the scanner themselves chooses to share their own scans elsewhere as well, like I do).  This rule is to keep disrespectful people like yourself from ruining it for everyone, because once scans from that site show up elsewhere, I promise you, it will shut down forever.  The owner NEEDS the small one-time member fee simply to afford to keep the site running.  You seem to think running a site hosting 8500 mags is cheap/free, but it isn't.  If the mags and service that site provides isn't worth the tiny membership fee to you, then you have no right to complain about not having access to those mags.

They ARE available.  There is no profit being made.  The fee is simply necessary to keep the mags online in a controlled, respectful environment.  Speaking as a scanner who chooses to share his mags both there and elsewhere, I can tell you that there is no other site out there with a higher peigree of members who are respectful to scanners than OGM and I'm frankly grateful there is at least one refuge from the mentality of "so long as it exists it's my god-given right to download whatever I want whenever wherever and however I want to"

P.S. I hope @Phillyman is paying attention.  I know a little something about what happens to people calling for flagrant disrespecting of the rules at other sites (even if in jest), and let's just say that if you keep it up, your user name might not be so appropriate...

GOOD. Let it shut down. This is the internet dude. We don't hold material hostage. Listen to what you're saying.

 

I want to interview you in voice chat RIGHT NOW. Add me.

Discord: xxxxxxx

WOW these cell phone amateurs need a lesson in the internet.

[unbanned]

I'm going to have to make a video for @kitsunebion youtube when I get home tomorrow. Guys like this incense me. I've been online since 1995 and a pirate since even before that, and yet for several years, all of these newbies to the internet have tried LYING to me telling me it costs money to SHARE FILES ON THE INTERNET.

 

IT DOESN'T.

SHARING FILES ONLINE IS FREE. $0. I will prove it in a youtube video since I already know this @kitsunebi will never take a voice interview with me. When I prove it, he's going to either try to have me banned from retromags or youtube because guys like this just want your money - they will never tell you the truth.

 

-nirv

[kitsunebi]

Ahhhh.  You're Nirv.  I thought I was going to have to compose a carefully considered reply to this, but I've heard all about you.  So LOL nevermind, it would be pointless.

 

"Newbie," he says To a guy who has spent over $1500 of his own money and god knows how many hundreds (thousands?) of hours over the past decade contributing hundreds of scans and more content to the databases here save anyone but Phillyman and more to the galleries than anyone else by far.  But I guess I'm just in it for the cash rewards and the glory LOL.  But again, thanks for signing your post, as now that I know who I'm dealing with (hey, you can take pride in infamy, right?) I feel zero need to reply to any further comments.  Good luck with your future pirating, and don't spend too much time making that video for my sake.

[Phillyman]

16 hours ago, unbanned said:

I'm going to have to make a video for @kitsunebion youtube when I get home tomorrow. Guys like this incense me. I've been online since 1995 and a pirate since even before that, and yet for several years, all of these newbies to the internet have tried LYING to me telling me it costs money to SHARE FILES ON THE INTERNET.

 

IT DOESN'T.

SHARING FILES ONLINE IS FREE. $0. I will prove it in a youtube video since I already know this @kitsunebi will never take a voice interview with me. When I prove it, he's going to either try to have me banned from retromags or youtube because guys like this just want your money - they will never tell you the truth.

 

-nirv

OGM, OOPA and Retromags and any other site that scans magazines COULD host all the files for FREE. He is right on that point. We at Retromags have been approached many times by IA to host our content over there. However this misses a point that IF IA was our hosting provider, that we are no longer in control of said downloads. Those missing scans that kicked off this thread, they would be gone regardless.

Also IA is not some free website, OGM asking for $20 to sign up and making it mandatory is because they are not IA with deep pockets and millions of dollars in donations rolling in each year. Now I am not going to invest a ton of time into this, but a quick dirty search looks like $30 million dollars?

On comparison Retromags takes about $2000 give or take to run per year. But again, you cant act like if we just dump up to IA that someone, somewhere is not funding those files being available. Retromags trusted Rapidshare and we watched them get shut down, Retromags trusted MegaUpload and we watched them get shut down. IA is in a legal battle over book lending, who knows what will shake out of that, do we want to trust them? I feel better being in control of our content.

Now Nirv also mentions hosting via home internet. This is something beyond most people. Most people have a home internet thru Comcast, Verizon or Cox in the USA. All these RESIDENTIAL ISPs usually have terms of service and will shut down your home internet in the blink of an eye if you try to start sharing terabytes of data. Lets look at what Retromags does in a month....

As you can see we fluctuate, but we are about 500GB per day on average. Some days is more some is less, and when we get mentioned somewhere it spikes. If you do this on your home internet and that is the only "good" provider in your area and you get banned for filesharing.....well I am not about to do that and I don't think you should either!

But Hey Nirv, if you want to mirror the Retromags collection, be my guest. We will touch on this in a bit.

Also Nirv is really downplaying the admin work, yes you can stand up Proxmox on an old Intel NUC or some old Dell PowerEdge server you got off Facebook for $100. But how many of us know or want to sit there and invest 50-100 hours learning how to set up Proxmox as a Hyper-V, buying 20TB hard drives ($300 or so last I checked), oh and you need multiple drives because if they die and you had everything on 1 hard drive, you are up a creek without a paddle. Then you have to learn how to stand up Ubuntu Server, how to patch it, how to secure it, and then whatever that program is that runs on Ubuntu Server to share files.

Nirv should really do a Youtube tutorial showing us how to set all this up from scratch. Think Nirv you could inspire dozens, maybe even hundreds of new magazine scanning sites! Teach us!!!!

And all of this, still ignores the "running of the project". Sure you can just come to Retromags and download all our Torrents, and you can then go over to OGM and snag all their stuff, and you can drag it into a folder and tada, your done.

But are you, now you are on the hook to keep going to all these websites, and there are about 15 of us out there. You need to grab anything new, upload it, convey that to the end users somehow. Should they download the Retromags copy of EGM Issue 34, or the OGM version...etc.

Retromags is more than just a file host of a few thousand magazines, I am surprised that Nirv has been around this site for soo many years but still misses the point. We are actively preserving stuff that has not been preserved before! We are closing out full runs of magazines!

To that point and let me make it super clear. Retromags is trying to preserve all the USA Gaming magazines! It will take MUCH longer to get to that goal if people do not know where to go to help out. So when people on the internet say ....

Oh cool, look IA preserved all the Nintendo Powers!

No, no they did not. All IA did was sit back and wait for one of there members to come here and snatch and reupload.

We want people to know where the scans originated from, because if someone sees 90% of a magazine run completed and they don't know we are the ones doing it, its not like IA or Nirv's solution will help them accomplish getting the other 10% of that magazine preserved.

Each magazine scanning site has different rules, and each of our sites probably looks at the other sites rules as silly. If OGM wants to require an account and $20 to access the files, that is on them. Retromags no longer requires donations to download or to download "unlimited" magazines. You can be banned and still come to Retromags as a guest and download magazines. We have been unlimited downloads for all since I think 2020?

But I am not going to have members at Retromags, using this site as a launching pad to try to attack another scan site. If you don't like OGM's required membership or $20 fee, that is well within your right. You can take it to Twitter, Facebook, MySpace and Yelp if you want to go public with your anger. Or here is a better thought, create an account over there and complain directly on that site!

But do not, bring it here! Don't come to Retromags to bad mouth other scanning sites. That is what Twitter is for, go launch attacks over there as I won't have it here.

I also love how Nirv glosses over how Retromags is not paywalled, and we dont even require a membership, hell like 90% of our stuff is on Torrents, how he tangled us up in this is beyond me, its like he thinks Retromags runs all the other scanning sites as well.

Nirv, you have my blessing, grab all our torrents and seed them for eternity, and if you ever get a DMCA to your home ISP, I want to see you ignore it (because if $30 million dollar IA pulls down stuff when asked, I don't believe you would be any different)

[dablais]

On 10/1/2021 at 1:25 PM, MigJmz said:

I'm trying to save as much UK/JPN mags as I can on the archive. Any help on this will be appreciated as I can't do this task alone.

I just gave a huge amount of PC Gamer UK and Edge UK to @E-Day that aren’t available in the database.  Thankfully , we would see them someday.